Gatherer Addon- An Oldie But A Goodie

A bit back, when we got lucky [thanks Blizz] with the Whiptail spawns going crazy, I made a post (4.0.6- Herbalism After Hotfix) on my little route that I was making a killing off of. There was a comment that asked about what addon I used to get the "timer" on the spawns. Thanks to our little "Gatherer" addon, I was able to get some extremly accurate information on the spawnrates.

Upon a "mouseover", you can get a bit of information (this screenie is on herbs, but it works with ore as well). You can see the last time that YOU picked the node (not if someone ninja'd it from you), the distance, and what actually spawned at that point. The pic to the right shows what is in your "immediate" area, listing circles where the nodes have previously spawned (and in this pic, you can see an acual node respawn).

Now we are gonna hit a little bit on how to use the "gunk" of the addon. In your chat pane, hit up a /gatherer to pull up your available options, which should look something like this:

If you click on General, it will pull up this screen. To have the settings like I use, you need to have the "Display nodes on WorldMap" checked (highlighted in yellow in the near upper left of the window).

Next, you will need to go to the Minimap on the left side, right below your General options. Here, you will need to click [or check] the "Display nodes on Minimap" option. This will allow you to see nodes all over the place. If you are using the addon and see any glitches upon clicking these, go back into your /say or /chat and use the command /reset. This will reset your UI and will allow you to use full capability.

There are a few other options that you can use, however I prefer to keep the simplicity for only the things that I use, I am sure folks that use this will add in comments if there are other options that they enjoy (and a how-to) in case I missed something.

Now I am guessing that there are some folks that are thinking "It's not worth my time to gather (mine or herb), I make more at the AH". Well, if you enjoy sitting at the auction house all the time and don't get out in the real world, well, that's your perogative. As of late, I am enjoying getting back into the game, and after an hour in Twilight Higlands picking Jasmine and mining Elementium Ore and Pyrite, I hit 2200g (pending auction sales) in 60:02 minutes. Without going into further detail on that (I know, you guys probably miss that), even fighting a drood "bot" (i think at least), I still had no issues hitting the over 2K GPH.  =)



Whiptail in 4.0.6- Damn the Uldum Dam!

Well, we knew it wouldn't last forever (but secretely hoped it would), last night (during the JMTC TS Gold Chat) I hit my "route" that I have ran about 6 times (hour blocks) since Tuesday to my normal success (a little light on Volatiles though...)


After three days of hotfixes and one server "restart" (that I know of) I started to think that maybe this was on purpose (the herb buff), as I was still getting great numbers, 393 Whiptail, 108 Volatile Life.

It was something completely different when I hit the same area around 1am server time for another run.....once again, some were on the "normal" post patch 2 minute timers, then I started seeing 5 minutes, then 20 minutes......

As you can see, it got worse. I then start seeing a few that are 15 hours....then a 16 hours.

By now you should know how I work, I took it upon myself to count up the nodes. 7,8,9,10,11. Now I updated you a few days back that they had nerfed a few spots (19 to 15), and now we are down another four that hadn't popped in 15+ hours. Feels like it's getting back to normal, huh? They hit a home run instead of a double with this nerf bat. And they are the opposing team... It seems the nodes that are left are still spawning decent, but the overall spawn locations dropped. again.

Since I dislike the monotony of herbing unless I absolutely need it (I spent soooo many hours in Wintergrasp with both herbs and ore you don't even want to know..),  and after seeing the suspected nerf of my new fav place, I got the ban stick myself. I hit the hour mark, tapped PrntScr, and was regretting about telling you folks what I have found while with tears in my eyes, I mail the 14 stacks I received to my "milling" toon. /cry.

To make it even worse, I cannot give you exact numbers as I musta (in my 2am stupor) missed tapped the PrntScr as when I woke up this morning, the SS was no where to be found. Once again, /cry....

Now I have been getting in a habit lately to check my blogroll to see if anyone has a similar post before I click "Publish Post", and to my dismay, JMTC has hit on this topic. Ugh. The King of WoW Blogs beat me to the punch... /cry.

To sum it up, does anyone have a box of kleenex for poor Alto?

4.0.6 Herbalism After Hotfix - Update on Whiptail in Uldum

*Edit- Big Jimm over at P3P just hit on an article, with us both posting the exact same time (ok, within a few minutes or so). Go over and read his post, you can click anywhere in this article for the link. This is just my opinion, but I think his is a better read than mine... Go check it out! And Jimm, if you read this, thanks for the link love! I will try my best to do better so I can get on your blogroll too..I promise.

On my post from yesterday, there was a comment left by Anonymous saying:

 "Must have been a software burp that took time to catch cause it's nerfed now... back to normal. "

Anon, I have to agree to disagree on that. After completing an hour "run", There were a few things that I noticed. For one,  out of the 19 nodes throughout my "spot" (ok, there are 20, but one has a three mob "timewaster" on it, so I only count my 19), four nodes did not show up. Not once. All the others once again fluctuated on a 6 to 12 minute timer on average, with a few "proccing" on a 2-3 minute and once again, a few that hit "instant" spawns (4 times within the hour, I counted this time...).

So to go further into what I see as a difference, Blizz more or less "nerfed" the spawn locations versus the actual spawn "procs". So basically, a 20% nerf. So once again, you get another screenie for an explaination. Pre-nerf, I had 241 Whiptail and 144 Volatile Life. Post-nerf, 347 and 125.

 *Ok, I just noticed my math was WAY off on my post yesterday. Jeezus.....lol. My screenie even shows 441, and I wrote 241. What a slacker this Alto guy is. How does he even profit on the AH? There are plenty of Grammar Police, where is teh Math Police? See what happens when I don't have an addon to do stuff for me? Hahaha.

So using the corrected number, (using a calc now...) I am figuring that the "nerf" lost on Whiptail is about 22%, and the change on Volatile Life is around 14%, so my previous guess is correct, that blizz just nerfed the locations, not the "proc" rates.

Ok bloggers, who else is an herbie and is gonna check the Heartblossom? Faid, did you farm since the recent hotfix? Did you have any changes? Believe me folks, if I had the time, I would update those locations too, but family always comes first. You guys are a close second though. Alright, maybe third. Ok, Ok, at least top ten. =)


So, in conclusion, I am still getting more Whiptail than previous to 4.0.6 in this location. So to me, it is still a viable place to "waste" my time, as 4K is still good GPH, and it gets me away from my normal PvP.

Are you guys tired of hearing about 4.0.6 yet? Am I leaving anything out that you want to know? Holler, let me know. I will do my best to get some scoops for ya. Now I did hear that there is a dungeon that seems to have a droprate for one of the new enchants, but I need to find out for sure before I tell ya....I guess I just kinda did. Well, did you hear anything? Tonight, I might try (note I said try) to solo. Ugh. Fun stuff.....

Whip It, Whip It Real Good! The 4.0.6 Uldum Herbalism "Nobody" Spot

As a continuance to my 4.0.6 post yesterday, it's 3am now and it's so hard to stop farming, as I have been hitting 4K per hour..... I think we have another round of "Happy Herbing", just like the beginning of Cata.

I was so busy farming mobs for the enchant and design drops that I didn't even check for nerfs on anything else. As I was working on my non-stop updated post from yesterday, Faids blog popped up on my screen, she was basically in a frenzy of happiness about the southern Uldum farming spot she was raking in the herbs with.

If you read my post from last night, you would see that I tried there, and there was too much competition, so I took my herbie/orie to farm up some Heartblossom in Deepholm. Did pretty well, however I didn't time any GPH. I was also picking up Elementium and Obsidium as I saw them, and was smashing a few mobs here and there, so it would have been a drag to try to figure it all out.

After finially grabbing a bite to eat around 10ish, I took a bit of a break, dropped my meta down to 75K (I got a call that my bud got one on ally side for 25K, and he learned it instantly, so that means two on my server alone in 12 hours of the patch being released. Now I know there are a TON of folks farming it, so that would affect the drop, but come on Blizz, I wanted something special).....wondering how rare it really is now.

I logged back in, and decided to hit Uldum to get some straight numbers for GPH for you guys to rate. I went to the southern tip (where Faid was farming) and I now know that everyone and their Tauren know about that place. It was a madhouse. I didn't get anywhere but frustrated. So I worked my way North to just below the damn. And hit the goldmine..

See all them little green circles? Yeah, nodes. A few of them it registered I hit 28 times. In two hours. Crazy? Loved every minute of it!

If you aren't familiar with where I am talking, it's smack dab in the middle'ish of Uldum. Everyone is hitting the upper "lanes" and the lower marsh, I figured I would hit the middle. And boy was I right. No one. A "once in a while" flyby was all I saw. Now this is when I enjoy farming. Plenty of herbs. No more Taurens! A few feet away from the node these buggers were already picking. I am tempted to spend $25 just to flip my herbie/ore toon to a tauren.

But even without the "Quickie Pickie" racial herbalism, I was still able to pull in 241 Whiptail and 144 Volatile Life in an hour. Total value on my server? 4100g. Not too shabby. In fact, I haven't seen that on a "simple" farm since the first two days of Cata release.

Now is where the whole Volatile Life stockpile comes into question. You know from reading my past posts, that is one thing that was around the blogosphere that I didn't fall into, but on my server that proved wrong, as the average price went from 8g pre-patch to 14 all afternoon (I did watch here and there, and it seemed that very few were selling, and after further investigation, it looked like a "bully" was buying out anything below him- keeping the price where he wanted it. Good job! Nice to see that!). 

Before logging off, it was rolling around 12g each, due to the fact that the farmers are dumping the AH (and the "bully" wasn't logged on to help it). I am hoping by midday it will be back below 10g, and when the rates get nerfed by Blizz on their hotfix (I believe as early as today), we will see them steadily rise, but I don't see them hitting 14 again. But I could be wrong. Again.

How did you all make out? My shadowspirit diamonds gained about 50g overnight, so that will help, and it's killing me not knowing what to do with that meta recipe. Still no horde has it, as none are in the AH. What do ya'll think?

Alto vs. 4.0.6 - Herbalism in Uldum and Deepholm and Design: Burning Shadowspirit Diamond?!

Ok, ok. All of a sudden I am versus everyone, everything. Well, lately I think that's just how not just my WoW life has been, but "real" life as well. I won't go into that, because that isn't why you are here.

This is going to be an update post throughout the night, as I get information, you will be the first to know. So let it be that if you are reading this right now, you need to keep checking back. If you see something that I don't hit on, feel free to update in the comments below.

I am still on my search for the "rare" beasts that has been mentioned in the PTR notes. No such luck as of yet. But I have seen a few things:

4.0.6 Changes Seen So Far

PvP prices raised, 1K more conquest points.

The add-on Bagnon is broken. *Edit- It has been updated

Spawn rates on Herbs Nerfed? Nerf Faids!
Azuriel just noted that the Daily Transmute for Alchemists is Busted....Anyone else see that?

I don't think blizz planned this one out too well. I mean...... .02 sec. Really? Cmon folks.....

If you are a 'scribe, get to the Trainer, as they added a new glyph in the patch, and toss it on the AH. Quickly. If you don't, someone will beat you.

Sinzi Sparkscribe. Ink Trader. Org. No more needing to hit up Dal. I am sure there is an ally mirror of a trader there as well. We knew this was coming (once again forgot who coined it) Figured you might want a little screenie anyways....

Just as a reminder, check your Blackfallow Ink and Inferno Ink prices to see if a flip is in order (10 Blackfallow per Inferno) to make some coin.

 *Update from Alberthus from Fighting Coin:

Sarana Damir: Alliance Side:

Thanks Alberthus! I don't play on ally side anymore, so I appreciate the pic!

Yeah, I really hate TSM. Have I said that already? I had a few Blackfallow's in my bag, and upon checking Sinzi's wares, I walked away and saw this. Really? This addon is now deleted.....I did nothing for this to happen, no clicking, nothing. Total Bullshit.

Now I hope you listened to me when I told you about saving up three Jewelcrafter Tokens to get this Design, because in the time that I bought it, crafted a few (5), tossed em on the AH and barked once before hitting my farm spot (see below) to test the "new" droprate of Tiny Treasure Chests, I had sold all of them. At 359g each..... =)

If you didn't listen, do so now. Someone might have beat you to the punch though....

Ok, something I was looking forward to wasn't the "reverse" nerf with the Potion of Treasure Finding. You nerfed it alright. The wrong way. Unless I was totally unlucky, but doubt it due to a blue drop. I hit up my Hyjal spot (you all know my fav farm spot- still not changed with the respawn rate, btw), popped a pot, and got 10 chests. Uhm. Not what I expected, as I pounded the mobs there (look below for that one). So pffft. Gonna try again after I finish this post, and will update.

Now I don't play my rogue too much, and truthfully, don't pay much attention, but after clicking Blade Flurry on a double mob, it stayed on the top of my taskbar. Like not costing a cooldown. Nice. Not sure if this is an intentional change (didn't look yet), but I will continue farming on him throughout tonight, hoping for one of the world drops.

Nerf Faids did a post on possible "over" nerf of Heartblossom and Whiptail. Now I had too much competition in Uldum to check, but I reset Gatherer when I noticed there was only one cat running in Deepholm (think he's a bot anyways, takes alot of time sitting at a node before picking it, and didn't respond to me...). But here's a screenie. Seems better, but I haven't really farmed herbs for quite some time, unless we are talking TolBarad. I took a flight around the map, and this seems to be the spot.....

Nerf Faids hit up this spot in lower Uldum, it's crazy spawns. I finially got a chance to get down there, and even though there is competition, I am still getting great rates. I am with Faid when she said that the Volatile Life stockpilers better start worrying, as even though I have seen a slight rise in price, I am getting around 100 per hour currently between uldum and deepholm.

Can we say "Twilight Highlands Nerf" again? Jeebus. No daughter tonight, I know where I am hanging until the hotfix tomorrow, we all know that's coming. Get while the gettin's good folks!

Wow. Not sure what to do with it now.....12K fresh out the AH. Hmmm. Relisted for 125k. Let's see how desperate someone is. Or how bad the haters are.....

I think I will give it an hour or two. What do you all think? Seen any yet? Wondering about droprates....

As I mentioned, I will keep you posted on the findings throughout the night, and it will be on this post, so if you are searching too, check back frequently...

Phasing Nodes/Underground Farmers- My Answer to Avoid Them and Still Profit

I know I am not the only frustrated one with this issue. I hear about it in /1. I have seen it myself (as have most of you), you stop to mine a node, you already hear someone and the "ting, ting, ting" of a miner's pic, yet all you see is a nameplate, with no body attached to it. Phasing? "Underground" mining? Whatever it is, hatred and frustration follows.

So what do I decide to do? /spit? send them a tell (most of the time, it's opposite faction, so that is out)? Open a ticket that will take four days to get a response? Nah, none of the above. I feel as if when I am cruising along at 70 on a 65mph road, and someone flies by me going 100+....do you call the cops? They will be long gone by then. Bah. Speed up, knowing that they will get the ticket if we cruise by a copper? Nope. Not worth the risk. I take the next exit and see the scenic route....

With so many farming Cata content, many have forgot about the needs still out there for pre xpac. So what does that mean for you? Remember your go-to spots back a few months ago? Farming Adder's Tongue in Sholozar Basin? Picking up 20 stacks an hour? Back to Nagrand for Khorium Ore farming? Hit up your AH and see what the prices are and put on your farming cap (or gloves, for that matter) and relive past times.. in peace. With zero competition.

If you can find a niche market on a certain herb or ore (via the current AH price), you might even exceed what your farm toon has been pulling in cata. With no competition on nodes, you can farm close to 2X the amount that you can get "fighting" with others, and you will have the peace and serenity of days past.

Herbalism and Mining, yellow dots everywhere!

Not sure if this just became available in 4.0.1 or not, but I just logged onto one of my toons a few minutes ago (haven't played her in a loooong time) and I see that you can now "find" both herbs and veins at the same time using the finder tab in your minimap.





This makes me extremely happy. Not only come Cata will you be able to pick all the new herbs but you will also be able to level your mining at the same time.....whats that saying about killing two birds with one stone? Yeah. We can do that now. Happy days ahead.

Glyph sales slowing, ink sales skyrocketing, and a sarcastic thanks to blizz and 4.0 for stealing my farmers away

Since patch 4.0.1 was installed almost a week ago now, alot of us made an absolute killing on the AH. 20k, 30k, 40k, currently, I am sitting at 42k made off of glyphs, and on my server I am starting to see alot of them going for under 10g apiece now. And its the weekend. Earlier in the week, I figured to take in at least another 20-30k over the weekend, but the sales are slow, and undercutting (which is happening by the minute) is insane. So I look (as always) for another way to win.....


Supply and Demand has taken over. With little to no herbs on the AH (only three pages, it seems as soon as they get on, they are sold) I am farming herbs on one of my toons instead of going to my mailbox to get from my farmer "friends" (more on this later).

In my experience, it seems that Adder's Tongue has the best (highest) return on Azure Pigment (for Ink of the Sea of course), and my favorite spot for farming them is in Sholozar Basin. Before you think, wow, he is really generic in this picture, I am not. I hit the whole area. I like to hit near the water (creeks, lakes, ponds) due to the double duty of getting not only Tiger Lily's, but for the spawn to also proc Deadnettle (Deadnettle seems to "attach" itself to Tiger as much as Frost Lotus is to Icethorn).






With Glyphs selling in the almost before patch range (some as low as 3g, others are still near the 100g height) I am getting 12.5g for each stack of 4 (so 50g per stack.....and why in stacks of four you ask? supply and demand prospers here). Yes, you only need three for a glyph, but this also helps twofold- one, i have sold some of my ink in the AH, and had that same person come to me with 4 inks (yup, bought em from me) tipped me 20g plus gave me the extra ink for making a glyph so one is freebie tips for scribes, and for two, I can basically get a free sale on an ink that might have otherwise unsold (simple economics here...)


Due to the prices of herbs, I have, with sadness and despair, lost my three herb farmers since the patch (I was getting 36-48 stacks per day from my main farmer for 7g/stack each pre-patch) I am now seeing what used to be my herbs being sold on the AH for 50-120g per stack (from guess who? yeah, you are right. Mr. Farmer), so I doubt I will get to see their beautiful herbs again....*cry*)