Showing posts with label Prospecting. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Prospecting. Show all posts

Mistakes Happen....Prospecting Cataclysm Ore Droprates

Here we go!

I wrote yesterday's post thinking I would be able to explain some intel that I have accumulated over the years. Damn, that was a mistake, huh? A shortsided mind and a post written at four in the morning, trying to work in two email'ers questions....Now's the time to clear some information up....

I stated that Elementium Ore would "proc" an Inferno Ruby every 1.5 stacks. That was a complete and utter typo. What I meant was Pyrite Ore, as over mass prospecting, I averaged near 4 blues per stack, so with RNG on your side, a stack and a half of Pyrite would yield 6 blues, or one of each (with quantity). Now some might say that is a jump, but it's an accurate statement, at least quite a bit more accurate than my Elementium numbers from yesterday.....

Now the Elementium Ore. Fex's numbers (in their comment) are similar to mine in that it's around 1 Inferno (or any given blue) per 4.5 stacks, as you can see below.

Want the full monte with the prospecting of Cata Ore? Let's go with a "per" stack ratio below:

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 Obsidium Ore:







"Greens" 5.8 per stack
Carnelian - .92
Zephyrite - .94
Jasper .96
Hessonite .99
Nightstone 1.1
Alicite .95

"Blues" - .9 per stack
Inferno Ruby .14
Dream Emerald .16
Ember Topaz .16
Demonseye .18
Ocean Sapphire .16
AmberJewel .16

If you go with Random numbers, you can figure one "blue" per stack (.9), and 6 "greens" (5.8) per stack prospected.

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Elementium Ore:








"Greens" 4.5 per stack
Jasper .78
Alicite .72

"Blues" 1.8 per stack


If you go with Random numbers, you can figure 2 "blues" per stack (1.8), and 5 "greens" (4.5) per stack prospected.

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Pyrite Ore:







Volatile Earth 3.7 per stack *Edit- This hasn't been updated since 4.1- I am prospecting a bank tab (98 stacks) of Pyrite ATM and will update in about 15 minutes...


"Greens" 6.6 per stack

"Blues" 3.9 per stack


If you go with Random numbers, you can figure 4 "blues" per stack (3.9), and 6 "greens" (6.6) per stack prospected. Oh, and 3ish Earths....

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Hope this clears up any misconceptions that are floating out there on "proc" rates for prospecting, and above all, have a nice day! =)
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Need more gold? Make "some" from Cataclysm epic gems

It's almost certain that after a patch or two, most likely patch 4.3, you can receive new epic gems by prospecting Pyrite Ore. There is also a super small chance (Considering titanium was at some point not prospectable) that a new ore or some other way to receive the gems will be introduced, but it's worth a small investment, let's say 5000g!

Pyrite's price has been steadily dropping and I've managed to snatch lots of them for even 20g/stack. Even now they give profit just from the green and blue gems, but once they start giving epics too, the profit is just ridiculous. If you're the first one selling a certain gem, you can even ask 1000g for one cut, and once others have the same design too, even 300g per gem profit is still likely.

How much gold is there to be made from Pyrite?
The chance to get a epic gem from 5 ores will most likely be around 27% like previously, so you will obtain loads of them if you start stockpiling today. But remember, they are months away most likely, so there is no hurry. Buy some when you see them cheap; and don't forget to create a guild and use the bigger bank!

I will create an another post regarding which designs to go for in order to get the maximum amount of gold, once the time has come.

During Wrath I almost reached gold cap from nearly half-way just from prospecting Wrath equals once the epic gems were available. I had my banks full of Tit ore!

And because you can't make lots of gold from Pyrite yet, I'll give 2 bonus tricks on how to make gold by prospecting!


Older Ores are still extremely valuable
Even if most don't need Wrath epic gems anymore, you can still make a huge profit off them. So while browsing for Pyrite Ore, search for Titanium Ore aswell while at it. You wouldn't believe how cheap it goes sometimes, and red gems are extremely valuable!

Other items to keep an eye on are TBC gems, prospected from Adamantite and Fel Iron Ore. Fel Iron Ore is often more expensive than Adamantite, so biggest profit comes from Adamantite in most cases.

The profit comes from uncut green gems which are needed by Jewelcrafters in order to level up. These can be sold for even 30g each if no one else is selling them (which usually is the case), meaning a prospected stack can give even 240g back! A stack of these ores cost about 20g on a good day; and sometimes a whopping 100g. Still, the profit is there!

If you choose to prospect Adamantite Ore, you will get Adamantite Powder too which I've sold for 70-150g each when no one else is selling. These too are the only way to level past a certain point, so people are ready to pay!


These ores may make you rich!
Here's a list of ores that have given me the best profit when prospected, so if you see some going cheap, try it out! You can give Copper Ore a try also, it's cheap but the gems aren't that valuable usually. And if no one is selling amulets and rings you could make from the gems, there's even larger profit to be made!

- Iron Ore
- Mithril Or
- Thorium Ore
- Fel Iron Ore
- Adamantite Ore
- Saronite Ore
- Titanium Ore
- Obsidium Ore
- Elementium Ore
- Pyrite Ore (Not yet!)

All the low level ores give green gems that are often valuable when sold as they are. There is no point asking for less than 25g for a Star Ruby or a Jade for example.

Check the gem availability before prospecting, just to be safe! And if people start undercutting you, don't worry. JCs need lots of them! But if the prices go too low, it's a good idea to buy the 1-12g gems and relist them for their proper price!
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Sell Wrath gems! Get rich!

While gem shopping with one of my alts I noticed that there's a serious fault in the AH. There wasn't even a single useful, cut WOTLK gem for sale, even though I was playing on a high population realm. Every gem was a Cata gem, not usable by level <-80 people.

I then logged on my JC and bought some relatively cheap uncut Wrath gems and also cobalt, saronite and tit ores which I then prospected for even more gems. Red gems were the ones that I was after, as they offer the best leveling stats, such as str, agi and int. Stamina is also a good choice if you get blue gems.


Lots of gem choices! But which one is the best?

I focused on the following gems:

Bold Scarlet Ruby
Bold Cardinal Ruby
Delicate Scarlet Ruby
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
Brilliant Scarlet Ruby
Brilliant Cardinal Ruby
Solid  Sky Sapphire
Solid Stormjewel

After a hour, 5 gems were already sold, making me a profit of about 1000g already. I listed epic gems for 300g and blue gems for 200g. Next day there was still no competition and almost all of them were sold.

Note that low population realms have less leveling characters, so Wrath gem sales might not be fast on some realms. Mainly brutal gladiators need these. 


Where to get epic gems?

There are a couple of ways besides buying from AH.

- Purchasable with 165 Honor
- Purchasable with 220 Justice Points
- Prospect from Titanium Ore, 29% chance
- Alchemy Transmutation


Caution: High auction fees!

One of the setbacks in gem selling is the high auction house fees. Even a 12 hour duration epic gem cuts a hole into your purse. If possible, try to sell these in trade chat instead, or use the lowest duration you can.

As always, "WTS Wotlk gems" does not make people think after reading it.

This is an example how to get people to pay attention to your message: "Got alts with empty gem sockets? Want to raise your leveling speed? Make use of Wrath epic gems! {skull}Str, Agi, Int{skull} Everything is available! /w me or check AH"
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How to play the Auction House

Auction house can be very profitable if you have professions. I will now let you know how I've been making almost 10k every day just by playing for a few hours, combining some methods I've written already. No boring grinding/flying needed! I play on a high population realm, so lower pop realms might have different prices.

Other professions have money makers also, but lets talk about that in a later post

Tip: It's wise to hold pauses sometimes with certain items so you won't flood the auction house with high priced items. Others will notice the high prices too and will join!


The Route

1. I usually start with Enchanting.

Everytime I visit the auction house, theres LOTS of Abyss Crystals for sale, usually for less than 5g each. What most enchanters forget is that they can shatter the crystals into something more valuable! 

One Abyss Crystal shatters into up to 12 Infinite Dusts or 6 Cosmic Essences, which still sell for a lot more than 5g! The recipe is available from the enchant supplier npc in Dalaran.

2. After that I use my alt's Mining for gold making.

Saronite and Cobalt Bars are in high demand by engineers and blacksmiths. Most miners simply don't bother smelting their ores but put em up for sale as they are instead, usually for as little as 15g a stack.
Saronites and Cobalt bars will both go for up to 90g a stack. A sweet spot I've noticed is around 75g a stack if I want to make them sell faster. If I see someone selling Saronite or Cobalt bars for less than 50g, I buy those aswell and relist them. They will be bought, usually within 24 hours!

After that I check Khorium ore and bar prices. Khorium bars will easily go for up to 150g each, so if someone is selling some for less than that, it's instant profit for me. Well, not so instant since not many need them. But they are low in supply so people are willing to pay for them. They still go within 48 hours everytime if you continue monopolizing them.

Note that if you're not the only one who has noticed this, its not wise to buy the 100g bars.

3. Next up is Engineering

Since Khorium has silly prices for the moment because no one will simply not bother mining in outland, except when leveling their professions, also engineers will be able to cash in. Khorium Power Cores.
I've noticed a good price is around 500g, but if you have patience and all the Khoriums, they will go even for 1000g. It's wise to keep one or two of them in the AH at all times and you will probably be the only one doing so.

One Khorium Power Core needs 3x Khorium Bar and 1x Primal Fire, which often costs less than 50g to make.

4. After engineering comes my Tailor's turn

Runecloth will often go for as little as 3g a stack, while Greater Eternal Essences will be worth almost 50g each and Illusion Dust stacks go for even more. It's wise to buy all cheap Runecloth and make Runecloth Headbands.

After that I send the Runecloth Headbands to my enchanter and disenchant them.

You can also make goods from Mageweave cloth, such as Black Mageweave Headband that will sometimes disenchant into Greater Nether Essences and Large Radiant Shards, which also are low in supply.

5. Last, but not least is Jewelcrafting

This has been discussed in the guide before in greater detail and you should check the original post if you haven't yet. Simply put, buy different cheap ores from the auction house. Newest ores are the best bet, such as Obsidium and Elementium ore.

After that I prospect them and make amulets and rings from the gems. Here's a more precise list.
Blue gems -> Cut & Auction house
Volatile Earth -> Auction house
Zephyrite -> Cut & Vendor
Nightstone -> Vendor
Jasper -> Jasper Ring & Disenchant
Hessonite -> Hessonite Band & Disenchant
Carnelian -> Carnelian Spikes & Disenchant
Alicite -> Alicite Pendant & Disenchant

After that I check the supply of enchanting scrolls and choose whether to make use of the acquired dust and essences or sell them as they are. I usually like to keep some of the jewelry in the AH also.
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Insane profits from prospecting! Guide to jewelcrafting

Requirements: Jewelcrafting, Enchanting
Recommendation: Mining

Here's a quick jewelry crafting guide. This may be the most well known way to make gold with Jewelcrafting, but it doesn't make it any less effective. I will however add some tricks that I haven't seen others do yet that can even double your profit!

This works with almost all ores, but in this guide I will focus on Obsidium ore. You are going after green gems and Obsidium ore gives more of them than Elementium Ore.



1. Either mine some Obsidium ore or buy some from the Auction House
2. Prospect them
3. Click on the below image or read on

wow gold


Now you will have a bunch of different gems and are gonna turn them into rings and amulets. Here's what I've found to be the most worthwhile thing to do with them.

Equipment with "less useless" stats, such as of the Whale, of the Soldier, of the Invoker or any other item with less than 4 different stats on it:

Nightstone >> AH during proper JC daily <OR> Nightstone Choker >> Disenchant
Hessonite >> Hessonite Band >> Disenchant
Alicite >> Alicite Band >> Disenchant
Jasper >> Jasper Ring >> Disenchant


Equipment with useful stats, like of the Fireflash, of the Earthbreaker or any other item with 4 different stats on it. Includes rare BLUE items and GREEN uncommon items:

Nightstone >> AH during proper JC daily <OR> Nightstone Choker >> Auction House
Hessonite >> Hessonite Band >> Auction House
Alicite >> Alicite Band >> Auction House
Jasper >> Jasper Ring >> Auction House


Other gems:

Zephyrites >> AH during proper JC daily <OR> Solid Zephyrite >> Vendor
Carnelian >> Carnelian Spikes >> Disenchant
All blue gems >> Cut <OR> Auction house >> Auction House

When creating rare gems, focus on the most useful stats only. These are Strength, Agility and Intellect for example.


Prices

Surpisingly few Jewelcrafters are selling their rings and amulets, or then they just use so low prices they will go instantly. I've found out you can ask for even a few hundred gold from a single green quality ring with useful stats (4 different stats)  on it, unless people are undercutting you. At least on my realm it seems I'm the only one selling rings and necklaces with useful stats on them, so I can pretty much choose the price.

I generally list my useful green rings and necklaces for 200g and blue ones for 300g, and they are bought within 48 hours everytime. Just don't try it with useless rings, like of the Whale. ;)

Enchanting scrolls

You should also check if you can make enchants that will sell for more than the materials you obtained. Chest enchant for +15 stats sell very good for example.

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